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Ed McCormick
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Started On : 15-Aug-2007 at 10:00:04 AM, #Views : 6328
Topic Subject : RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate |
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Very funny Guy. You made me chuckle this morning.
I certainly agree with you. You must use a release when using a skin safe
silicone molding material. Silicone is so strong that even the finest hair
will stick fast in it making for a very uncomfortable artist/model
experience.
That is the place for Nivea cream. I use it for that.
The forum is a wonderful place when you think about it. Those less
experienced get to share the techniques of those more experience.
The big lesson is that there no one right way. Experienced artist blend the
techniques they have picked up from others or developed themselves over
time.
So this is not a place to criticize technique - because if it works without
harm to others, it works. The forum is a place to pick up great pointers.
What works for me may not work for them and visa versa. But the techniques
are all worth incorporating into our artist's tool kit.
Great artists, such as Hitchcock, Guy, Schoonraad, Parvin, Butler and so
many others that I am afraid I'll miss your names have developed their own
'best' ways. You can see it in their finished pieces.
Regards
Ed McCormick
-----Original Message-----
From: aliforum@lifecasting.org [mailto:aliforum@lifecasting.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:30 AM
To: info@artmolds.com
Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking
alginate( Message No. 1746)
------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
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Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
To learn more about it click here
---------------------------------------------->
Hello Ed McCormick
Post Date : Wednesday 15th of August 2007 09:30:03 AM
Posted by : "Guy Louis-XVI" guy@louisxvimannequins.com
Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate:--
Like John said, it does not hurt to add a little protection, people
moisturize all the time.
The hair I was refering to Ed, was Vellus hair or "peach fuzz".
Vellus hair is a very soft and short hair that grows in most places on the
human body in both sexes. It is usually less than 2mm long and the follicles
are not connected to sebaceous glands. It is most easily observed in women
and children.
You have to be more carefull when doing a silicone casting.
As for the rest of the body, I was refering to dry skin especially the
hands.
Now you have to excuse me, I have to go shave my back...
Guy
Guy Louis-XVI SFX
2137 Hubbard Crescent
Ottawa, ON
K1J 6L3
Canada
613-748-7877
www.louisxvimannequins.com
-----Original message-----
From: aliforum@lifecasting.org
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:30:07 -0600
To: guy@louisxvimannequins.com
Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-RE: A new
topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate(
Message No. 1745)
> ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
>
> NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
> Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
> the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
> twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
> shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
> To learn more about it click here
> ---------------------------------------------->
>
>
> Hello Guy Louis-XVI
>
>
> Post Date : Wednesday 15th of August 2007 06:30:03 AM
> Posted by : "John Schoonraad" john@lifecast.co.uk
>
> Re: A new topic has been added-RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new
topic has been added-Sticking alginate:--
> Yes were a hairy bunch over here .
> I had two actors recently both very famous one was the hairyest guy I have
> ever done the other the least hairyest not a hair on his body
> ,the thing is alginate does not stick in patches but when a whole arm is
> cast in one piece to the shoulder or more there should be a release
because
> as Dave so rightly pointed there is a thing called suction this can be
> helped by a release its also a lubricant ,so even in the smooth guys case
I
> needed that realease which acted as a lubricant to pull his arm out the
> movement brakes the suction
> when I do a complete body in one, you need that lubrication ,this subject
is
> quite vast with many variables and nuances ,I spent a three day work shop
> teaching this art and I did not repeat my self once this subject has
endless
> applications and countless tecniques as I said before there are many here
> who are experts in this field we can all learn from one another, its the
new
> people that need the guide lines
> you never know when that situation comes along e.g some mascarra bonds
with
> alginate it happeened to me I dont know the brand but it happened I now
> nivia lashes the person in question was quite alright it was just a face
> mask not a full head but I did it again to do a better job this time with
a
> touch of nivia ,this is jus a small example lets no dwell on it there are
> many more, nivia is a barrier between the skin and the alginate it eases
the
> removal of the cast and allows some movement avoiding suction
> as for choesteral cant say I'm keen I find it to greasy so not user
friendly
> for me ,this is my personal taste.
> Its wonderfull that we can all air our views here thats what its all
about
> many new people will come here and hopefully go on to be great artists in
> there own right with there own tecniques and views which they may in turn
> will pass on there are many amazing products available through this site
> You can be guided by Ed on that
> as always go safely
> John
> ps another point of interest is the psychological aspect that when
applying
> the nivia the person feels some comfort there and introduces them to the
> next stage the alginate they often say it a bit like a beauty treatment
the
> person always comes first .
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:30 AM
> Subject: A new topic has been added-RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A
new
> topic has been added-Sticking alginate( Message No. 1740)
>
>
> > ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
> >
> > NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
> > Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
> > the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
> > twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
> > shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
> > To learn more about it click here
> > ---------------------------------------------->
> >
> >
> > Hello John Schoonraad
>
> >
> >
> > Post Date : Tuesday 14th of August 2007 07:30:03 PM
> > Posted by : "Ed McCormick" info@artmolds.com
> >
> > RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking
> > alginate:--
> > You Brits and Canadians must be a lot more hairy than us pasty
skin-smooth
> > Americans. But I do hope you are referring to your hairy men models
rather
> > than hairy women models.
> >
> > ArtMolds manufactures a water soluble hair release especially for hairy
> > areas, beards, hair on heads, eyebrows. Never any trouble though in
using
> > alginates on hairless skin or fined haired skin.
> >
> > We as manufacturers are highly concerned on safety as I believe our last
> > product liability premium was in excess of ,000. So we are very
> > cautious
> > in giving product use advice. I can say without contradiction you do not
> > need a skin release with alginate - except of course where hairy is
long.
> >
> > Short hair slips easily out of alginate. Long hair tangles in it and
will
> > rip the alginate damaging your mold.
> >
> > God bless the ancient Viking hordes and their wild genes.
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards
> >
> > Ed McCormick
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aliforum@lifecasting.org [mailto:aliforum@lifecasting.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:30 PM
> > To: info@artmolds.com
> > Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been
> > added-Sticking
> > alginate( Message No. 1739)
> >
> > ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
> >
> > NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
> > Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
> > the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
> > twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
> > shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
> > To learn more about it click here
> > ---------------------------------------------->
> >
> >
> > Hello Ed McCormick
> >
> >
> >
> > Post Date : Tuesday 14th of August 2007 06:30:03 PM
> > Posted by : "Guy Louis-XVI" guy@louisxvimannequins.com
> >
> > Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate:--
> > Well said john, I'm all for safety too!
> > You can NEVER take a chance with a model, I'd rather loose detail than a
> > model!
> > I use a little Nevia cream when I did Aginate castings. It just
smoothens
> > the skin enough so the Alginate doesn't get fussy with the fine hairs or
> > dry
> > skin.
> > Guy
> >
> > Guy Louis-XVI SFX
> > 2137 Hubbard Crescent
> > Ottawa, ON
> > K1J 6L3
> > Canada
> > 613-748-7877
> >
> >
> >> Post Date : Tuesday 14th of August 2007 06:00:05 PM
> >> Posted by : "John Schoonraad" john@lifecast.co.uk
> >>
> >> Re: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking
> > alginate:--
> >> For those of you that don,t feel you need a release, think on .
> >> Yes alginate comes off most skin freely, but not all types & it does
not
> >> come of hair easily as it permeates the hair fibres. I always use Nivea
> >>
> >> some times alot & sometimes very little .
> >> I HAVE WITNESSED people getting stuck in moulds, & it taught me not to
> > make
> >> the mistakes of others.
> >> I specialise in full body moulds, pushing the envelope is where I'm at
> >
> > but
> >> for safety's sake, I use a release.
> >> I have safely cast over a thousand full bodies; heads, hands, torsoes
> >
> > I've
> >> way lost count of.
> >> I use Nivia & I don't lose detail, and it does not slide off.
> >> If you want see the results of my work, try checking out my movies
I've
> >> done over a hundred.
> >> There are fine& accomplished artists here, but many are not. The
message
> > to
> >> all the people learning this art is "Be safe...& don't run before you
can
> >> walk
> >> while you,re still in the questioning stage of this experience.....
> >> Safety
> >
> >> is paramount"
> >> Thanks for you time
> >> Go safely
> >> John Schoonraad
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
art
> > and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
casting
> >
> > create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members
with
> > forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their effectiveness
> > and
> > advance opportunities for their artistic success.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
art
> > and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
> > casting, create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its
> > members with forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
> > effectiveness and advance opportunities for their artistic success.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date:
> > 14/08/2007 17:19
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life casting
create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members with
forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their effectiveness and
advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>
ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life casting
create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members with
forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their effectiveness and
advance opportunities for their artistic success.
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