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John Schoonraad
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Started On : 15-Aug-2007 at 10:30:04 AM, #Views : 6721
Topic Subject : Re: A new topic has been added-RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate |
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My sentements exactly well said Ed I think that wraps it up for now no doubt
it will surface again ,so Guy how do manage to shave your own back I have to
get help with mine ,is this just canadians and brits .
cheers
John
----- Original Message -----
From: <aliforum@lifecasting.org>
To: <john@lifecast.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:00 PM
Subject: A new topic has been added-RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new
topic has been added-Sticking alginate( Message No. 1747)
> ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
>
> NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
> Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
> the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
> twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
> shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
> To learn more about it click here
> ---------------------------------------------->
>
>
> Hello John Schoonraad
>
>
> Post Date : Wednesday 15th of August 2007 10:00:04 AM
> Posted by : "Ed McCormick" info@artmolds.com
>
> RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking
> alginate:--
> Very funny Guy. You made me chuckle this morning.
>
> I certainly agree with you. You must use a release when using a skin safe
> silicone molding material. Silicone is so strong that even the finest hair
> will stick fast in it making for a very uncomfortable artist/model
> experience.
>
> That is the place for Nivea cream. I use it for that.
>
> The forum is a wonderful place when you think about it. Those less
> experienced get to share the techniques of those more experience.
>
> The big lesson is that there no one right way. Experienced artist blend
> the
> techniques they have picked up from others or developed themselves over
> time.
>
> So this is not a place to criticize technique - because if it works
> without
> harm to others, it works. The forum is a place to pick up great pointers.
> What works for me may not work for them and visa versa. But the techniques
> are all worth incorporating into our artist's tool kit.
>
> Great artists, such as Hitchcock, Guy, Schoonraad, Parvin, Butler and so
> many others that I am afraid I'll miss your names have developed their own
> 'best' ways. You can see it in their finished pieces.
>
> Regards
>
> Ed McCormick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aliforum@lifecasting.org [mailto:aliforum@lifecasting.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:30 AM
> To: info@artmolds.com
> Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been
> added-Sticking
> alginate( Message No. 1746)
>
> ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
>
> NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
> Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
> the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
> twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
> shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
> To learn more about it click here
> ---------------------------------------------->
>
>
> Hello Ed McCormick
>
>
>
> Post Date : Wednesday 15th of August 2007 09:30:03 AM
> Posted by : "Guy Louis-XVI" guy@louisxvimannequins.com
>
> Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate:--
> Like John said, it does not hurt to add a little protection, people
> moisturize all the time.
>
> The hair I was refering to Ed, was Vellus hair or "peach fuzz".
> Vellus hair is a very soft and short hair that grows in most places on the
> human body in both sexes. It is usually less than 2mm long and the
> follicles
> are not connected to sebaceous glands. It is most easily observed in women
> and children.
> You have to be more carefull when doing a silicone casting.
>
> As for the rest of the body, I was refering to dry skin especially the
> hands.
>
> Now you have to excuse me, I have to go shave my back...
>
> Guy
>
> Guy Louis-XVI SFX
> 2137 Hubbard Crescent
> Ottawa, ON
> K1J 6L3
> Canada
> 613-748-7877
>
> www.louisxvimannequins.com
> -----Original message-----
> From: aliforum@lifecasting.org
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:30:07 -0600
> To: guy@louisxvimannequins.com
> Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-RE: A
> new
> topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate(
> Message No. 1745)
>
>> ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
>>
>> NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
>> Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
>> the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
>> twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
>> shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
>> To learn more about it click here
>> ---------------------------------------------->
>>
>>
>> Hello Guy Louis-XVI
>
>>
>>
>> Post Date : Wednesday 15th of August 2007 06:30:03 AM
>> Posted by : "John Schoonraad" john@lifecast.co.uk
>>
>> Re: A new topic has been added-RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new
> topic has been added-Sticking alginate:--
>> Yes were a hairy bunch over here .
>> I had two actors recently both very famous one was the hairyest guy I
>> have
>
>> ever done the other the least hairyest not a hair on his body
>> ,the thing is alginate does not stick in patches but when a whole arm is
>> cast in one piece to the shoulder or more there should be a release
> because
>> as Dave so rightly pointed there is a thing called suction this can be
>> helped by a release its also a lubricant ,so even in the smooth guys case
> I
>> needed that realease which acted as a lubricant to pull his arm out the
>> movement brakes the suction
>> when I do a complete body in one, you need that lubrication ,this subject
> is
>> quite vast with many variables and nuances ,I spent a three day work shop
>> teaching this art and I did not repeat my self once this subject has
> endless
>> applications and countless tecniques as I said before there are many here
>> who are experts in this field we can all learn from one another, its the
> new
>> people that need the guide lines
>> you never know when that situation comes along e.g some mascarra bonds
> with
>> alginate it happeened to me I dont know the brand but it happened I now
>> nivia lashes the person in question was quite alright it was just a face
>> mask not a full head but I did it again to do a better job this time with
> a
>> touch of nivia ,this is jus a small example lets no dwell on it there are
>> many more, nivia is a barrier between the skin and the alginate it eases
> the
>> removal of the cast and allows some movement avoiding suction
>> as for choesteral cant say I'm keen I find it to greasy so not user
> friendly
>> for me ,this is my personal taste.
>> Its wonderfull that we can all air our views here thats what its all
> about
>> many new people will come here and hopefully go on to be great artists in
>> there own right with there own tecniques and views which they may in turn
>> will pass on there are many amazing products available through this site
>> You can be guided by Ed on that
>> as always go safely
>> John
>> ps another point of interest is the psychological aspect that when
> applying
>> the nivia the person feels some comfort there and introduces them to the
>> next stage the alginate they often say it a bit like a beauty treatment
> the
>> person always comes first .
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:30 AM
>> Subject: A new topic has been added-RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A
> new
>> topic has been added-Sticking alginate( Message No. 1740)
>>
>>
>> > ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
>> >
>> > NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
>> > Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
>> > the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
>> > twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
>> > shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
>> > To learn more about it click here
>> > ---------------------------------------------->
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello John Schoonraad
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Post Date : Tuesday 14th of August 2007 07:30:03 PM
>> > Posted by : "Ed McCormick" info@artmolds.com
>> >
>> > RE: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking
>> > alginate:--
>> > You Brits and Canadians must be a lot more hairy than us pasty
> skin-smooth
>> > Americans. But I do hope you are referring to your hairy men models
> rather
>> > than hairy women models.
>> >
>> > ArtMolds manufactures a water soluble hair release especially for hairy
>> > areas, beards, hair on heads, eyebrows. Never any trouble though in
> using
>> > alginates on hairless skin or fined haired skin.
>> >
>> > We as manufacturers are highly concerned on safety as I believe our
>> > last
>
>> > product liability premium was in excess of ,000. So we are very
>> > cautious
>> > in giving product use advice. I can say without contradiction you do
>> > not
>
>> > need a skin release with alginate - except of course where hairy is
> long.
>> >
>> > Short hair slips easily out of alginate. Long hair tangles in it and
> will
>> > rip the alginate damaging your mold.
>> >
>> > God bless the ancient Viking hordes and their wild genes.
>> >
>> >
>> > Warmest regards
>> >
>> > Ed McCormick
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: aliforum@lifecasting.org [mailto:aliforum@lifecasting.org]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:30 PM
>> > To: info@artmolds.com
>> > Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been
>> > added-Sticking
>> > alginate( Message No. 1739)
>> >
>> > ------------Silica-Free & Oh So GREEN------->
>> >
>> > NEW! MoldGel SILFREE. A revolutionary formula.
>> > Made with all food-grade ingredients. It nourishes
>> > the earth when discarded. 3-to-1 mix ratio yields
>> > twice the volume as those 1-to-1 brands. Delayed
>> > shrinkage for delayed casting - so creamy smooth, too.
>> > To learn more about it click here
>> > ---------------------------------------------->
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello Ed McCormick
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Post Date : Tuesday 14th of August 2007 06:30:03 PM
>> > Posted by : "Guy Louis-XVI" guy@louisxvimannequins.com
>> >
>> > Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking alginate:--
>> > Well said john, I'm all for safety too!
>> > You can NEVER take a chance with a model, I'd rather loose detail than
>> > a
>
>> > model!
>> > I use a little Nevia cream when I did Aginate castings. It just
> smoothens
>> > the skin enough so the Alginate doesn't get fussy with the fine hairs
>> > or
>
>> > dry
>> > skin.
>> > Guy
>> >
>> > Guy Louis-XVI SFX
>> > 2137 Hubbard Crescent
>> > Ottawa, ON
>> > K1J 6L3
>> > Canada
>> > 613-748-7877
>> >
>> >
>> >> Post Date : Tuesday 14th of August 2007 06:00:05 PM
>> >> Posted by : "John Schoonraad" john@lifecast.co.uk
>> >>
>> >> Re: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Sticking
>> > alginate:--
>> >> For those of you that don,t feel you need a release, think on .
>> >> Yes alginate comes off most skin freely, but not all types & it does
> not
>> >> come of hair easily as it permeates the hair fibres. I always use
>> >> Nivea
>
>> >>
>> >> some times alot & sometimes very little .
>> >> I HAVE WITNESSED people getting stuck in moulds, & it taught me not to
>> > make
>> >> the mistakes of others.
>> >> I specialise in full body moulds, pushing the envelope is where I'm
>> >> at
>
>> >
>> > but
>> >> for safety's sake, I use a release.
>> >> I have safely cast over a thousand full bodies; heads, hands, torsoes
>> >
>> > I've
>> >> way lost count of.
>> >> I use Nivia & I don't lose detail, and it does not slide off.
>> >> If you want see the results of my work, try checking out my movies
>
> I've
>> >> done over a hundred.
>> >> There are fine& accomplished artists here, but many are not. The
> message
>> > to
>> >> all the people learning this art is "Be safe...& don't run before you
> can
>> >> walk
>> >> while you,re still in the questioning stage of this experience.....
>> >> Safety
>> >
>> >> is paramount"
>> >> Thanks for you time
>> >> Go safely
>> >> John Schoonraad
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
> art
>> > and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
> casting
>> >
>> > create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members
> with
>> > forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
>> > effectiveness
>
>> > and
>> > advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
> art
>> > and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
>> > casting, create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its
>> > members with forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
>> > effectiveness and advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date:
>> > 14/08/2007 17:19
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life casting
>
> create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members with
> forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their effectiveness
> and
> advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>>
>
>
>
> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life casting
>
> create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members with
> forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their effectiveness
> and
> advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>
>
>
>
>
> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
> casting, create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its
> members with forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
> effectiveness and advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date:
> 14/08/2007 17:19
>
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