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John Schoonraad
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Started On : 07-Feb-2007 at 04:00:04 AM, #Views : 6330
Topic Subject : Re: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-ART vs COMMERCE |
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There seems to be a glytche my message was sent as a personal reply to Ed
strange it ended up here
keep cool every one
John
www,lifecast.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: <aliforum@lifecasting.org>
To: <john@lifecast.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:00 AM
Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-Re: A new
topic has been added-ART vs COMMERCE( Message No. 1500)
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> -------------------------------------------------------->
>
> Hello John Schoonraad
>
>
> Post Date : Tuesday 06th of February 2007 08:00:02 PM
> Posted by : "Steven Rehm" stevenwrehm@comcast.net
>
> Re: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-ART vs
> COMMERCE:--
> Can some one turn these messages off? I've now received over 40 of the
> same
> message.
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:00 AM
> Subject: A new topic has been added-Re: A new topic has been added-ART vs
> COMMERCE( Message No. 1479)
>
>
>> -----------------Amazon.com ALI Sponsor -------->
>>
>> NEW! Monster Movie Masks. A two part DVD series on
>> molding, casting and finishing full latex mask. Available
>> through http://www.Amazon.com
>> -------------------------------------------------------->
>>
>> Hello Steven Rehm
>
>>
>>
>> Post Date : Tuesday 06th of February 2007 10:00:04 AM
>> Posted by : "John Schoonraad" john@lifecast.co.uk
>>
>> Re: A new topic has been added-ART vs COMMERCE:--
>> Hey Ed
>> welcome to the club its a real thing is it not, well I have been
>> squeezing
>> out some art but its hard while making a corperate living .
>> I HEAR YOUR WORDS least ways you know the difference many never do
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:44 PM
>> Subject: A new topic has been added-ART vs COMMERCE( Message No. 1443)
>>
>>
>> -----------------Amazon.com ALI Sponsor -------->
>>
>> NEW! Monster Movie Masks. A two part DVD series on
>> molding, casting and finishing full latex mask. Available
>> through http://www.Amazon.com
>> -------------------------------------------------------->
>>
>> Hello John Schoonraad
>>
>>
>>
>> Post Date : Monday 05th of February 2007 09:43:47 AM
>> Posted by : "Ed McCormick" info@artmolds.com
>>
>> ART vs COMMERCE:--
>> I have been thinking about that phrase a lot lately - art vs. commerce.
>> Maybe that is because we were recently commissioned to create a full body
>> casting of David Blaine the illusionist. The piece is for a promotion in
>> London. It required Blaine to hold a cell phone (the item to be
>> promoted).
>>
>> I really love life casting and I certainly love being paid for it, too.
>> But
>> as I stood back to admire the finished piece, I thought, "Ugh, there is
>> no
>> art there it is just a three dimensional poster." Part of it was that we
>> had
>> to conform to our client's budget - big company, but smaller budget. That
>> forced us to take short cuts. The second issue was we had only10 days to
>> create a full body piece and that is not a lot of time. That again forced
>> more short cuts. Thus, dumbing down the art factor and maximizing the
>> technique factor. Anyway that was my rationalization.
>>
>> Then I remembered being commissioned to create a full torso of Iman
>> David
>> Bowie's wife for a DeBeers promotion. They wanted five copies to go to
>> jewelry designers all over the world. I had both the time and the budget
>> and still I wouldn't call that bust a piece of art in the sense that we
>> artists would describe it. It was just a bust - oh, a great looking bust
>>
>> but it didn't say anything to the senses as art typically does.
>>
>> I haven't done any art for art's sake for many many months. I miss that.
>> The
>> business, workshops and commercial commissions have me working 7-days a
>> week
>> lately. I know I must force myself to take a deep breath and take a
>> break.
>> Because when I am working on something purely for art's sake there is no
>> better feeling - it is euphoric.
>>
>> So I apologize to the entire membership for being tardy on the
>> announcements
>> of the competition. I have contacted the winners a while ago so they know
>> who they are. I was waiting to get a section on the ALI website done for
>> the
>> formal announcement. But day by day goes by and that has not come to pass
>> so
>> I'll have the announcements to the members posted on the forum
>> onWednesday.
>>
>> In the meantime, I did manage to get a page posted on the Blaine project
>> so
>> you could see my lamentation for yourself. It is here:
>> http://www.artmolds.com/david_blaine.htm
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
>> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
>> casting
>>
>> create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members with
>> forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their effectiveness
>> and
>> advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>> Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date:
>> 04/02/2007
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
>> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
>> casting, create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its
>> members with forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
>> effectiveness and advance opportunities for their artistic success.
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> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the art
> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
> casting, create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its
> members with forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
> effectiveness and advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date:
> 04/02/2007
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